1920s Locomotives.

1920s Locomotives.
Lord Nelson and Gladstone, May 1927..

Monday 28 April 2014

226- 233. A curious LSWR bunch.

226. LSWR 733 The Bug, 4-2-4 which was Drummond's personal transport and could reach 85 mph.. (Locomotive Publishing Co). Its saloon ended up as a garden shed in Swanage.

227. LSWR 737, Class C14 light shunter, built 1907,  sold to the Admiralty.  (Locomotive Publishing Co). Martin Long suggests S14 - will check.

228. 0-4-4 211 with some mysterious gismos (air brakes). Built 1882, Class 02, became W20 Shanklin.

 229. (L)SWR 243. M7 Class 0-4-4. The 1897 conical smoke-box door, to make room for an experimental spark inhibitor. Note also the fashion for SWR abbreviation. The M7 245 is currently at the NRM York.

230. (L)SWR 693  0-6-0 Drummond 700 class, at Nine Elms.

231. LSWR 735, a LB&SCR Stroudley A1 0-6-0T, No. 68 (668) Clapham (built Brighton 1874)sold to LSWR to become 735, here just repainted in 1903. Note the feedwater heater.  Worked at Lyme Regis. (F Moore Railway Photographs)

232. LSWR 101. I think this was the original K14 small dock tank built 1907 before it was given a larger boiler to become the B4 of the same number, named Dinan in 1908(F Moore Railway Photographs). Martin Long says S14 - will check.

233. The same class but now as a B4 with a larger boiler and consequent rebuilding. It now looks precarious on its 0-4-0 wheelbase. Granville is number 102, built 1893.Now preserved at Bressingham, near Diss, Norfolk.

Saturday 26 April 2014

213-225 Victorian engineering.

This little group will take a little time researching, so bear with me - and chip in if you are able.  Stephen
213. 0-4-0 (LPC)

214. 2-4-0 No. 57.   Railway unknown (LPC). MR suggested below. There are some similarities in the top line with 147 above, a Beyer Peacock engine. Similar to the LC&DR Tiger and Echo classes of the 1860s, see further D L Bradley, Locomotives of the LC&DR, figures 18 and 21.

215. 2-4-0 No. 126. The plaque is unfortunately unreadable but looks like a Beyer Peacock plaque. Railway unknown  (LPC). MR suggested below. Broadly similar to 214, although this one has an external sandbox.

216. Rothwell Single 2-2-2  084  Styx 1847/8 with Adams name board, rebuilt 1865 (Bradley, Early Engines, p.22)   (LPC)

217. Beattie Patent, says the Beyer Peacock plaque, date unreadable. Bradley, Early Engines, p.112, unidentified post-1868 built '329' class.

218. No. 384, steamroller because of solid front wheels, (nicknamed for the sound it made, see the solid leading wheels. Adams 380 Class.

219. No. 382. Another Adams 380 Class (steamroller)  (LPC)

220. A vary over-exposed print. Steamroller 383

221. 4-4-0 Adams 135 Class,  No. 136. Built 1880-1. The conical smoke-box door dates the photograph to 1897.

222. 4-4-0 Adams 460 Class No. 462

223. Rothwell Single 2-2-2- No. 097 Pegasus July 1848, rebuilt 1868
with Adams nameplate. Stationed in Exeter (LPC)

224. Python No. 0100,,Rothwell Single 2-2-2  1848, rebuilt July 1868. With Adams nameplate.

225. 2-4-0WT 177 Class, built Beyer Peacock in the 1870s, No. 314, now preserved.




Friday 25 April 2014

211-212. Brighton

Brighton engines are greatly under-represented in this archive. I have looked out the only two others I can find and include them here.
211. B647 with a powerful King Arthur Class neighbour, E797 Sir Blamor de Ganis. The A1X used to be No. 47 Cheapside built in 1876.

212. LB&SCR 326 Bessborough, J Class 4-6-2T (1912, a class of only 2, the other being Abergeveny). Lord Bessborough was on the Board and the name was taken from a B4 Class engine (see picture 136). Geoff: Down Southern Belle at Balham Intermediate. Published in RM in October 1912 credited to F E Mackay. Most of Mackay's glass plates were destroyed on his death in the 1930s so it is good to identify a Mackay image..

Thursday 24 April 2014

208-210 In Memory, 1914-18

 Appropriate to this centenary year,  engines named in memory of the fallen in the first world war -

208. Remembrance - London, Brighton & South Coast Railway at Redhill. The plaque underneath the name reads: "In grateful remembrance of the 532 men of the L.B.& S.C.Rly who gave their lives for their country, 1914-1919". The Remembrance Class were Baltics (4-6-4) which worked on the Brighton line prior to electrification. They were then rebuilt as N15X 4-6-0s for use further west, only Remembrance keeping its former name.


209. Valour - Great Central Railway, Robinson Class 9P (LNER Class B3). The inscription reads: "In memory of GCR employees who gave their lives for their country, 1914-1918.". [withdrawn 1947]


210. Patriot - London & North Western Railway Claughton Class (1920, Crewe works). The engine is appropriately numbered 1914, taking the number from a Renown class locomotive. "In Memory of the Fallen L&NWR Employees 1914-1918".  LNWR was grouped into the LMS who developed a rebuilt Patriot class.



Monday 21 April 2014

200-206 Gladstone Bag.

200. There Once Was an Ugly Duckling - here seen in working condition, London, Brighton & South Coast Railway Stroudley B1 Class 0-4-2 No. 214, Gladstone, the first of the 'Gladstone' class of 36 express passenger engines.  Preserved today in the National Railway Museum, York with a preservation story going back to the 1927 when it was withdrawn for restoration and preservation by the Stephenson Locomotive Society.  It had the number 618 from 1911 when four engines were scrapped (215-220). The three survivors became 618-620 to make way for a new class, but the war intervened, the engines didn't materialise, and the original numbers were restored.
In this photograph, circulated by O J Morris) it has the painted number and name typical of the early 1920s

201. But a touch of make-up goes a long way... The following (except for 203) appear to be a set of five on unmarked postcards. Photograph appears to be W J Reynolds (see comment below).  Geoff: 201 : J.N. Maskelyne (left), on Saturday 21st May 1927 during an SLS visit to Battersea. 

202. As preserved and presented in 1927. (W J Reynolds) Geoff: 202 : Headcode No 69 Victoria and Brighton, via Crystal Palace (Specials only), which went out of use in June 1910 - so, just for decoration.

203. The livery seems to be a different colour, a film distortion (F Moore/Locomotive Publishing Co)

204. Gladstone with fellow Class B1 LBSC No 197. (W J Reynolds).  If it is 1927, then it still has its abbreviated LBSC lettering on the tender, typical of the early 1920s. It has no name (historically it bore the name Jonas Levy) but has a brass number cartouch on the cab unlike picture 200. It has a crude number painted on the tender, in the Southern tradition. We know that this engine did receive the Southern livery (a photograph appears on SEmG). It was withdrawn August 1932.
From Geoff: 204 : "An F. Moore photograph of the great day, 23 May 1927, when Gladstone was hauled out of one of the Battersea shed roundhouses by fellow class member No 197 (once named Jonas Levy) and still appropriately with LBSC on its tender."   Quoted from The Brighton Circular Winter 2009. But: see note to 201. F. Moore is the photograph distributor (later known as The Locomotive Publishing Co.) rather than the photographer. 

This photo (below) is actually the F Moore photo - notice the effect of different film on the livery, which makes sense of this series of photos (see also Moore's picture at 203). Moore's vantage point is closer and slightly different, judging by the semaphore signals in the background. The number on 197's tender is not so easily visible.

205. Photo by W J Reynolds.  Geoff: 205 : Appears to be Nine Elms, so on or about 14th May 1927 when she was exhibited at Waterloo with E850.

206. Photo by W J Reynolds.

Sunday 20 April 2014

The Urie N15s. 191-199




The Urie large engine 4-6-0 family added a passenger class after World War One numbered N15. 736-745 were built in 1918-19, with 746-755 added in 1922-3.  Within the family, many parts were interchangeable for efficiency. All the below have 8 wheel tenders, but some later models had 6 wheel tenders because of line restrictions. These engines were later integrated into the King Arthur Class and given Arthurian names. Many of these photographs show the engines before naming. See also above photos 71-3 and 75 showing 737, 740, 752 and 755.

191. LSWR 737 was later named King Uther. These before and after photographs show the value of photo-enhancement.




192. LSWR 736, later Excalibur

  
194.   LSWR 740, later Merlin in three photos
 LSWR 740
 LSWR 740


195. LSWR 745, later Tintagel

 196. LSWR 747, later Elaine. Note the tender with oil tank, hence around 1921.


197. LSWR 748 was later named Vivien

198. LSWR 755, later The Red Knight

199. LSWR 749, in Southern livery, but still unnamed. Later named Iseult.  Worth recording in spite of the blemish on the print.







Wednesday 16 April 2014

172-190 Later H15s and S15s.


In 1924, production of H15s restarted, including the rebuilding of 330-334 former F13s. The running boards are now level and not stepped. These three classes were a family with many interchangeable parts - H15 and S15 as mixed traffic, and N15 as passenger engines. At this stage the N15s were not given Arthurian names.

172. Southern 334, , Class H15 rebuilt from class F13.

173. Southern E521, Class H15

174 Southern E473, Class H15 (Locomotive Publishing Co)


 175. Southern E521, Class H15

 176. Southern E476, Class H15

177. Southern E522, Class H15.

178. Southern E334 wearing 1930s blinkers. 330-334 were rebuilt from Class F13s.

179. Southern E 522 Class H15.

180. Southern E473 Class H15.

181. Southern E476 Class H15.


 182. Southern E330, rebuilt from an F13.

183. Southern E524 Class H15.

184. LSWR 498 Class S15, around 1920.



185. LSWR 499, Class S15 (Locomotive Magazine)

186. LSWR 507, Class S15 (O J Morris)

187. LSWR 508, Class S15 (Locomotive Publishing Co)


188. LSWR 507, Class S15  (Locomotive Publishing Co)

189. LSWR 825, Class S15 (Locomotive Publishing Co)

190. LSWR 833, Class S15 (F Moore's Railway Photographs)

To be moved to King Arthur post   later

 Southern E778  Sir Pelleas (Locomotive Publishing Co)

Southern E453 King Arthur. (Locomotive Publishing Co)

Southern E782  Sir Brian.

Southern E764 Sir Gawain (F Moore's Railway Photographs)