161-172 The 1914 H15s.

On Drummond's death, Urie took over and began a serious shake-up of the LSWR locomotive stock. The first move was to design a batch of 4-6-0 mixed traffic locomotives, the H15s. This began in 1914 but was then held up by the war. This post features those 1914 introductions, numbered 482-491, plus 335.

161. LSWR 482, Class H15.

162. LSWR 483, Class H15.

163. LSWR 484, Class H15.

164. LSWR 485, Class H15.

165. LSWR 486, Class H15.

and in Southern days

167. LSWR 487, Class H15.

168. LSWR 488, Class H15.

169. LSWR 489, Class H15. Geoff: 169 : "Up Bournemouth" F.E.Mackay, pub RM Feb 1915. The presence of the juice rail, position of the box and the shallow cutting, suggest Earlsfield. 

170. LSWR 490, Class H15. (Locomotive Publishing Co)

171. LSWR 491., Class H15 (Locomotive Publishing Co)

172. Finally, as reported elsewhere in this series, the Drummond E14 LSWR335 was rebuilt into the last H15 by December 1914. Its near-sister locomotives LSWR 330-334 would have to wait till after the war.

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146. Peter Smart: Photo 146 Eastleigh Paint shop February 1913. The lack of activity suggest a Sunday and access for official photographs. The clue to the date is the presence of D15 472, the last of the class which was out shopped in February 1913.
To the left is Number 665, an Adams X6 and behind the an Adams "Jubilee" A12 class which might be 584. I can't see the number clearly enough to be certain but it looks like the two digit that are visible are 84. Perhaps you, Stephen, can use an eye glass on the original photo please. (Confirmed as 584, Stephen)

147. The back reads: Beattie's early goods loco. Under magnification, the top line of the brass plaque says Beattie's Patent, and underneath 'Beyer Peackock Ltd, Manchester'. An impressed stamp on the original (visible in this print) reads J N Mudd, Manchester, a photographers mark.The middle line has 1908 which I first took to be 19th August but may be the year. However, the word after it is something like FREPL. James Mudd was an esteemed Victorian photographer (http://www.mosi.org.uk/media/33871134/jamesmudd.pdf) who took photographs for Beyer Peacock from 1856 (his wife's maiden name was Peacock). The early ones were albumen prints, which proved unstable. He soon used the dry collodion process, with which this print was made. This was exposed onto a glass place, but required an exposure time of several minutes. This process later speeded up when the glass plate mix used gelatin after the 1870s. James Mudd's portraits and landscapes are still traded. He died in 1906 but his company continued through his son (James Willis Mudd) and later his assistant George Grundy. This postcard is by the Locomotive Publishing Co. Similar locomotives were made for the Midland Railway, and several to Dutch Railways - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mopa1/5710949855 and http://www.victorianweb.org/technology/railways/l13.html  At least one went to the Isle of Man. 

148.

149. Carriages...

(F Moore's Railway Publications)

150. The back reads (unfortunately written in biro) 720. Southampton Dock. August 1899. This is an interesting prototype Drummond engine, built 1897, classified 4-2-2-0 (i.e. independent uncoupled driving wheels) the only member of Class T7, five similar engines (369-373) being built in 1901, Class E10. Nicknamed 'double singles'. More information on www.railuk.info.   Note also the luggage trolleys in the background.

151. Other pictures of Class T7 4-2-2-0  LSWR E720

152. With Drummond firebox watertubes

153. In Southern colours.

154. E449 N15 Class Sir Torre, probably as new in June 1925.

155. E448 Sir Tristram N15 Class new in photographic grey around May 1925

156. LSWR Class N15 E749 by Urie, built Sept 1922, here in photographic grey during Southern repainting. These early N15s were absorbed into the King Arthur Class by Maunsell in early Southern days, when it was named Iseult.

157. Southern Schools Class: E900 Eton

158. Southern Schools Class: E901 Winchester

159.Class  F13  LSWR 333. Peter Smart: Photo 159 This shows F13 number 333, the only F13 actually superheated and the photo was taken at Eastleigh in June 1920. Superheating did improve the engine's performance but not sufficiently to justify doing the other 4 of the class. The loco was withdrawn in August 1924 along with the rest and nominally rebuilt to H15 (see sister engine 335 below, rebuilt in 1914). Very little of the original locos were used in the rebuild.

160. The Class H15 E335 in Southern days. 

111-145 Early locomotives, and in the works.

111. LSWR 446 Class 445, designed by Adams and built by Robert Stephenson & Co around 1883. Peter Smart says:  445 class number 446 at Basingstoke in May 1888 running as a Wordsell Von Borries compound. The cylinder in the view is the LP side and was 24" in diameter. Withdrawn and cut up around 1924. It was moved to the duplicate list around 1908 - the number would then be underlined and later become 0446. Express passenger, 12 were built. 7ft 1in driving wheels. Source:www.railuk.info.

 112. LSWR E298 on the duplicate list (note underlining) just into SR days. Class 298 (3 engines survived into BR). BR No. 30587. 1874 Beattie design, rebuilt by Adams, Urie and Maunsell over time. Survivers ended up in Wentford Bridge China Clay Works, Wadebridge. Now preserved on the Bodmin and Wensford Railway, http://bodminandwensfordrailway.co.uk.

113. The back simply says 'North Devon'. The Victorian engine is called not Greedy as I thought but Creedy. Peter Smart says, The name is Creedy not Greedy. This was a broad gauge Crewe Type loco built for the Exeter & Crediton Railway and delivered on the 16th June 1855. It lasted until April 1877. The photograph is probably taken at Barnstaple, perhaps in 1855.

114. LSWR 409, 330 class, withdrawn 1931. Seen here before it was placed on the duplicate list (i.e. pre-1911).

115. LSWR Vulcan, 0-4-0ST. Built August 1878 by Vulcan foundry and worked Bournemouth to Poole. Sold in 1924 to Taylor Tunnicliffe & Co of Stone, Staffs.

A different view of Vulcan. LSWR brass plate clearly visible. Alongside 278-A (duplicate list) of the Beattie 0-6-0 Class 273. Peter Smart: The Southampton Docks Co enjoyed a close working relationship with the LSWR until the Dock Co was purchased by the Railway in 1st November 1892. The Dock Co's 7 locos then became LSWR property. Vulcan was built by the Vulcan Foundry August 1878 and was given LSWR number 118 in December 1893, renumbered 111 in December 1899, 0111 in April 1904 and finally sold in February 1924.

Peter Smart. 

116. LSWR 457 and later (1920) 734, SR E734 Clausentum, 458 class (458 was Ironside).Peter Smart: Clausentum and Ironside were built by Hawthorn Leslie in July 1890. Clausentum, the Roman Name for Southampton, was numbered by the LSWR 457 in December 1892, became 0457 in May 1908, 734 in January 1914, E734 in March 1924, 734 in September 1936 and finally withdrawn in September 1945.

117. LSWR 345, Beattie 302 class, built by Beyer Peacock, withdrawn 1925. Seen here before placed on the duplicate list (i.e. pre-1911). Peter Smart says:  This is a Beyer Single framed goods built to the order of W.G. Beattie and delivered in August 1876. The loco retains the original Beyer raised firebox and was therefore taken before 1891 when it was rebuilt with Adams boiler. The large rectangular plate on the cab side records the date of construction and the lists the Beattie patents incorporated. Adams was appointed and joined the LSWR on 17th January 1878 and started fitting goods locos with steam brakes in 1881; 345 has brakes in this photograph.

118. LSWR 314, 0298 class. Here as on the duplicate list as 0314 in SR days.

119. A different view of E0314.

120. I tried and failed to read the name on the original, only to find it reproduced very clearly as Sultana. Any further details welcome. Peter Smart says:  Sultana. This is a Falcon class 2-4-0 Number 82, designed by Joseph Beattie and was delivered from Nine Elms Works in January 1866. The photo was taken at Notham in about 1880.

121. LSWR 464 with gleaming new paint.

122. 490

123. B4 Dock Engine  LSWR 176.

124. LSWR 273 - A. Beattie 0273 class with Drummond chimney. The -A designation of the duplicate list seems to have been added in the early 1920s, before the 0 prefix became the norm.

125. LSWR 273-A, of the 273 class, on the duplicate list. See 124.

126. LSWR 0278, 0-6-0. Another 0273 Class, this time with stovepipe chimney and 0 prefix.

127. LSWR 50, 46 Class 4-4-2

I assume that many of these works shots were from a bought collection - there is remarkably little activity going on!

128. This composite records the building of Class E14 LSWR 335 in 1907.

129. Peter Smart says: Photo 129 & 130 Drummond 4-6-0 number 335 under construction at Nine Elms in 1907. By December 1914 this engine had been rebuilt (cannibalised, even) into a Urie H15, of which there are pictures below. This frame has the chalkmark 'e14' visible.

130.

131. These seem to be devices for increasing water heating capacity, a Drummond water-tube firebox. Peter Smart: Photo 131. The is E14 4-6-0 number 335 nearing completion at Nine Elms in 1907.

A different view of E14 class, E225.

132. A shot earlier in its manufacture. Peter Smart: Photo 132 lower. The boiler of number 335 being built at Nine Elms in 1907 showing the headers for the firebox cross water tubes, note that these tubes were inclined so the front group on the other side were higher at the front where as in this view the rear group is higher.

133. E335 as a Class E14 when first displayed and photographed in 1907:

135. The same engine was rebuilt (or rather 'recycled') as a H15 in December 1914. This picture shows a superheater so may be a little later.

135. LSWR E335 as a Class H15 with superheater.

and in Southern days

136. This is a finished version of the water-tubes  firebox before 1912, when ithis LBSCR engine was converted back to the standard form. Photo archived by the Bluebell Railway. Peter Smart: The 4-4-0 is a LBSCR engine which has the Drummond type cross water tubes, presumably fitted under some patent agreement between the two railways. This loco had a much smaller boiler than 335! Geoff says: 'Bessborough' was a B4, and entered service with the Drummond water-tube firebox in June 1902. Head Code is Victoria and Brighton via Through Line (aka 'Quarry'). Date no later than June 1910 when the boards were simplified. 

137. With thanks from Peter Smart: Photos 137 and 138 are mock ups to show the differences between the Drummond water tube boiler and the standard fire tube boiler. In 137 holes can be seen for additional fire tubes in both the front tube plate and the firebox tube plate. Holes can also be seen in the firebox sides for the dross water tubes.

138.

139. 343 was a  Class K10. This is reproduced from a tiny picture from a montage.Peter Smart:  Photo 139. K10 number 343 fitted with the experimental water tube boiler shown in Photo 137. The K10 was new in December 1901 and built with this boiler. The loco was fitted with a standard fire tube boiler in December 1902 with the loco having completed a mere 4641 miles in the experimental form. The montage also contained photo 137. Question: is this the spark arrester behind the conical smokebox door?
Peter Smart says (many thanks): Stephen asked, is this the Drummond spark arrester behind a conical smoke box door? The layout certainly has some similarities but I think the baffles here are more to do with the water tube boiler which seems to have a very large free gas area. I have looked several times at the door and cannot make up my mind about it being conical. I tend to think it is not.

The full montage of the water-pipe boiler: numbers are difficult to read even with an eyeglass, but seem to be: top left 683 (date around 1897, note SWR and conical door, the only engine without the water tubes), top centre K10 343, top right Class L11 166, bottom left L11 409, bottom centre K10 343, and bottom right K10 395.

140. Wrecks... Peter Smart notes: L12 number 421 and Beyer Peacock double framed goods No 0351. At Nine Elms in the aftermath of the Salisbury accident on 30 June 1906. The top montage has two pictures of 421 working, with 5 crash aftermath pictures, including the three below.

141. The remains of LSWR L12 421.

421 from the other end

142. LSWR 0351 wreck from the Salisbury crash.

143. Peter Smart: I believe this to be the new Boiler Shop at Eastleigh Works.

144. Peter Smart:  This is a large shed and I think it may well be Eastleigh.

145. Peter Smart: . Beyer single framed goods number 303, built to the order of W.G.Beattie and delivered in July 1874. It was rebuilt by Adams in 1886, duplicated in December 1900 and withdrawn in November 1921. It would appear that the photo was taken before December 1900 (i.e before being on the duplicate list).