1920s Locomotives.

1920s Locomotives.
Lord Nelson and Gladstone, May 1927..

Saturday 26 April 2014

213-225 Victorian engineering.

This little group will take a little time researching, so bear with me - and chip in if you are able.  Stephen
213. 0-4-0 (LPC)

214. 2-4-0 No. 57.   Railway unknown (LPC). MR suggested below. There are some similarities in the top line with 147 above, a Beyer Peacock engine. Similar to the LC&DR Tiger and Echo classes of the 1860s, see further D L Bradley, Locomotives of the LC&DR, figures 18 and 21.

215. 2-4-0 No. 126. The plaque is unfortunately unreadable but looks like a Beyer Peacock plaque. Railway unknown  (LPC). MR suggested below. Broadly similar to 214, although this one has an external sandbox.

216. Rothwell Single 2-2-2  084  Styx 1847/8 with Adams name board, rebuilt 1865 (Bradley, Early Engines, p.22)   (LPC)

217. Beattie Patent, says the Beyer Peacock plaque, date unreadable. Bradley, Early Engines, p.112, unidentified post-1868 built '329' class.

218. No. 384, steamroller because of solid front wheels, (nicknamed for the sound it made, see the solid leading wheels. Adams 380 Class.

219. No. 382. Another Adams 380 Class (steamroller)  (LPC)

220. A vary over-exposed print. Steamroller 383

221. 4-4-0 Adams 135 Class,  No. 136. Built 1880-1. The conical smoke-box door dates the photograph to 1897.

222. 4-4-0 Adams 460 Class No. 462

223. Rothwell Single 2-2-2- No. 097 Pegasus July 1848, rebuilt 1868
with Adams nameplate. Stationed in Exeter (LPC)

224. Python No. 0100,,Rothwell Single 2-2-2  1848, rebuilt July 1868. With Adams nameplate.

225. 2-4-0WT 177 Class, built Beyer Peacock in the 1870s, No. 314, now preserved.




16 comments:

  1. 214, 215 are not the classes stated, not LSWR engines.

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    1. agreed -- both look like MR 2-4-0s by Kirtley

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  2. 57 is obviously a midland railway engine
    the one below looks like one too in green livery

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    1. Pic 214. Thanks, any bibliographic evidence would be helpful.

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  3. Stephen I would like to share your site link with our local history group would it be allright to post one of your pictures with a link to this site

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  4. Yes of course. Who are you by the way, you just appear as Unknown! Where is your group?

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    1. Sorry only just found you the other day my name is Vincent Swift our group is a British life of the past and local history group Stephen in the north west
      i think your site is excellent I'm a pre grouping railways fan so you'll understand my interest.Many thanks for the wonderful pictures

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  5. Thanks, Vincent. These were a case load of postcards. Cyril'sdieing widow gave them to me in the 1970s - they were going to the skip. I always promised to circulate them. Usually there is no history. Cyril came from Southampton, collected 1910- 1930 and took his own photos. His widow was in Bradford,, Yorks. I have other images too so your message has spurred me to carry on this winter. Used to live in Marple, nr Manchester - where are you?

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    1. Not too far from there Stephen midway between Liverpool and Manchester pretty close to Rainhill of Rocket fame.They are great pictures

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    2. Not too far from there Stephen midway between Liverpool and Manchester pretty close to Rainhill of Rocket fame.They are great pictures

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  6. Thanks, Vincent. These were a case load of postcards. Cyril'sdieing widow gave them to me in the 1970s - they were going to the skip. I always promised to circulate them. Usually there is no history. Cyril came from Southampton, collected 1910- 1930 and took his own photos. His widow was in Bradford,, Yorks. I have other images too so your message has spurred me to carry on this winter. Used to live in Marple, nr Manchester - where are you?

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  7. Thanks, Vincest. I have hundreds more photos but ran out of steam, If I get chance this winter, keep an eye open for a wide range of pre-grouping pics from all companies.

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  8. Thanks, Vincest. I have hundreds more photos but ran out of steam, If I get chance this winter, keep an eye open for a wide range of pre-grouping pics from all companies.

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  9. a lot of these are beyer locos (obviously). but I think there has been a bit of confusion in some cases with Adams (LSWR)locos which have a number of similar features. ie. stovepipe chimney etc. Beyer did a lot of variations on their Metropolitan tank engines , including some with tenders . many of these were exported around the world . Holland, Australia . NZ,South Africa and others . some,at least , of the Beyer engines I suspect number among these .---however I am not an expert on LSWR locos so I will try to find some evidence to support my suspicions. No/ 5 is a Beattie well tank built for the LSWR ,and almost certainly of the same class as the last pic which has been re-boilered and a cab fitted .

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    1. Happy for you to crawl over them. It would be nice to know who you are, and which number photo you are referring to. And perhaps what the evidence is for your information. Thanks

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